Monday, July 13, 2009

BJJ Journal #2: In Defence of My Sweet Skivvies.










I have a secret weapon that's actually not such a well-kept secret. After all, they've been pointed at, alluded to, and mocked. I guess it might have something to do with how they sometimes peek out over my pants which can ride down a bit from the rough and tumble of drilling and rolling, and they also have the tendency to daringly eyeball the world through the side-gaps of aforementioned pants.

I am speaking, of course, about my Lucky UnderGis.

The first time I noticed there was something perhaps slightly unkosher about my choice of grappling skivs was when Tits'n'Gritts ~ who was at the gym picking up BJJ Mastah ~ waved her finger at my waistband and loudly announced, "Ooh, nice lacey panties! You can totally see them, you know." After momentarily freezing with mortification, I looked down and thought, Oh, shoot, you're right: I can see them. You can see them. Everyone can see them.

Dammit.

Yet at the same time, I still find myself reaching for them all the time namely because there are very few feminine protocols I observe, but perhaps the most important amongst them are:


  • being conscious to wear appropriate support for my Northern assets to prevent the risk of a) developing National Geographic pencil tits or, b) flashing erect nipple syndrome (ENS); and

  • sporting the correct unmentionables down South to sidestep dreaded visible panty lines (VPL).



That said, I daresay I have a few favourite pieces of each in my boudoir, and by far my pick of the underpants would have to be my fabulous lime~green Hanky Pankies ~ which I bought while knocked up for the third time, puking on average nine times a day for sixteen interminable weeks, and unable to drink both alcohol and caffeine. (Fie on the travesties of pregnancy and curses on Eve! What woman must endure to propagate man on earth. Grrrr...)

Nevertheless, what I so adore about this particular pair:


  • they're incredibly comfy, almost like you're wearing nothing at all. The Wall Street Journal has referred to them as "lace butter." And when going between classes where you wear fitted pants for one session and switch into gi~bottoms for another, this cut is exactly what you'll end up wearing if you don't want dreaded VPL.

  • have you ever seen a happier shade of green? Normally an olive or fern~green girl myself, these limeys have faded to a delightfully smiley hue. Truly warms the cockles.

  • these undies gloriously live up to their "no wedgie" claim because really, who wants ass~floss that comes with a prize at the end of the day? Just sayin'.

  • they're miraculously, truly one~size~fits~all. They saw me through my 25~lb weight gain with SiKay and still fit me perfectly now. Thus, they're perfect~wearing for even my grossest of fat days, considering how they sweetly lie to me and never get squeezy and tell me I've chunked out.

  • they get washed with my Sweet Gi, which is after every single wearing. Therefore, they are practically Siamese twins who are always fresh and ready for action; and

  • they're rather badass, no? To smoothly execute a triangle on an opponent while wearing lacey lingerie surely gives a girl a hit of something rather potently empowering and... oddly addictive.



But herein lies the problem: Is there a whiff of slutdom ~ or am I being inconsiderate ~ in wearing underwear that might not always stay fully concealed under my gi~pants and top? Am I asking for attention if I wear a plain Under Armour without a shirt overtop when it gets too warm? Are either of those practices hoochy in practice ~ though absolutely not in spirit?

Firstly, in my defence, I don't think I would overthink or worry about any of this crap if I didn't come home from class and have Boy regularly look at me and say complimentary things that make me acutely aware of my body and how my training clothes are fitting me. He'll mention the belly-riding top and peeking~out lacey underwear, and I'll flush with embarrassment, as if I dress that way for attention. (Speaking of which... DAMN YOU, UNDER ARMOUR. *upraised fist shake* Make a top that doesn't ride up, why don't you, because even my skinny~ass boy buddies experience the same problem!) It's eerily akin to my being a really little kid and my father looking at me with a glint in his eye, saying as he noted the hairs growing on my arms, "You are a perverted girl, and you will like sex very much." How it made me feel so confused and dirty, I can't even tell you... even though I had absolutely no clue what he was talking about.

Maybe that's another chief reason I made such a point to maintain boys as friends... and nothing more. I grew up feeling truly asexual, and an equal member of my mostly-male groups. And even now, it still consciously it feels like I have no need to worry because I am one of the guys ~ albeit louder and sillier, and am in a totally safe, completely uncharged environment. Yet Boy keeps reminding me I'm a girl and not a guy, that it's an irrefutable fact I can't escape.

So though I try to ignore him and discount his claims ~ on every level ~ I can't help but struggle with this see-saw battle of conscience, concern, and self-consciousness. I'm reminded of a story told by an old friend who was a martial arts instructor for the Portland Police Academy; he described how a ridiculously hot girl used to come into the gym and trained without wearing bra. At first, the novelty of her bouncing boobs was rather enjoyable for the guys, but it got to the shocking point where some fellows actually began to complain. Wha'? Do such things actually happen? Isn't that somewhat akin to shooting yourself in the foot for a guy? Dare I need mention this foxy chica and the instructor eventually hooked up and had a kid together? It was during the telling of the story where I learned the definition of "hoochy mama." She wasn't impressed, but he thought it hysterical. And well~deserved.

JiuJitsuGrrrl also ascribes to the belief that most women are "whores" and undeserving of her respect, and that the majority of women who enter BJJ are absolute "whores" who want to get male attention unless they prove their "non-whore" worth by actually being serious about the art and disproving her theory that most women are "whores," so... if she notices my skivs, will I fall into the "whoretegory"? Am I an unwitting "whorticulturalist"? Or am I a "whore" who doesn't think she is one, but is in complete denial? Should I even care?

Aggghhhhhh... Mindfuck.

Fundamentally, it begs the question of what's appropriate for the environment, or better yet, if it's not even an issue. Am I sending out any kind of message with my Lucky UnderGis, or does is it completely slip notice because precisely no one even notices them, which is exactly what I'm hoping?

I hate having to be sensitive and cautious about my clothing, and in fact feel fairly indignant I even worry about such silly, trivial things. I only started thinking about it more doggedly recently because one of my BJJ bros made a discreetly tongue-in-cheek crack about it, but it was in such a way that it wasn't creepy at all, just quietly alluding... Nevertheless, it still shocked the hell out of me because I didn't think he noticed. As a result, I've been wracking my brain for solutions, like getting some little shorts to wear overtop Lucky UnderGi's and under gi pants, thus a happy medium. This would also allow quick changes where I could slip into a skirt or dress after class without potentially needing to duck into a scarce restroom to change.

But at the same time, is all this thought for naught? Am I, yet again, overthinking everything to death because to be honest, I don't think anyone gives a flying feck except for my trying to be considerate about such things, and I'm not really caring much this particular second anyhow. My Lucky UnderGis serve their purpose exceedingly well, feel great, are kind of my Linus blanket in BJJ, provide sentimental value, and have evolved into being what they are simply by repetitive choice and habit.

Therefore, I shall not apologize for them, at least not for now. But in the meantime, I daresay there is something to be gleaned from this mental debacle. Herein lies BJJ lesson #2, especially in honour of my Sweet Skivvies:


Do what you will, and flow with it. Regardless of what happens immediately afterwards as a result, you'll probably still end up tapping out... and will hopefully learn something helpful along the way.





(photo credit: This very cool ad for skivvies comes from this guy's neat compilation site of things he likes.)

12 comments:

  1. Sigh...

    1) Yes. Boys are noticing your lacy underthings. Every single time. No, they are not getting used to it. Yes, they are thinking suggestive things--even if they would rather not be.

    2) It's ok that guys don't always want to see gorgeous, bouncing boobs. Sometimes they just want to train and not be bothered with sexual thought. It can be a distraction.

    3) When you talk suggestively/sexually as a form of joking, you are giving other people mental images of you sexually. That just is. If you don't like your male friends thinking about you sexually, don't encourgae it by make sexual comments. You can keep doing it or not keep doing it, but don't act like it isn't happening when you do. It just is what it is.

    4) You are not one of the friggin' guys. Ok?!? OK?????? I don't know how many times I have to tell you that before you get it. It doesn't matter if YOU feel like one of the guys. The boys don't see you as one of the guys. They don't. Your level of asexuality or sexuality has no effect on how someone else is going to view you sexually. You are being myopic.

    I don't know why you need to learn the lesson the hard way, but you do. Seriously. Ask the male friends in your life if they would sleep with you. Proposition them, even. You'll get your answer on how asexual/one of the guys you are.

    Like I told you before, it isn't rude or horrible that they do. Just like you don't get why a dude would want to have sex with you if you are "only friends"--dudes don't get why you wouldn't want to have sex since you are friends and like each other on some level. It's just different wiring.


    I love you. Get your head out of your ass about this.

    -Girl Friday

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  2. Dear Girl Friday:

    1) Wow, that was quick.

    2) Got the Vaseline. Working at getting head out of ass. It's... hard... going but... it's... finally... moving...

    3) Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you. For being a true friend and calling it out and all that good stuff. Clarity in myopia = lifelong goal, and I kid you not... I'm even legally blind physically.

    4) How do you have it so figured out? I always I forget (or maybe just can't accept?) we're not all on the same page in terms of sexual attitudes ~ or lack thereof. We are such curiosities. And you're right; it's not a matter of good or bad; it's just what it is. I wish I could be better at synthesizing head knowledge (or at least what other people tell me) with actual mental integration.

    A bit slow on the uptake am I.

    5) I love you, too. And am so crazy thankful to have you in my corner.

    xxoo, jitsulassie

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  3. Ah yes! Forgot to mention, my Under Armour shorts finally arrived in the mail the other day; will give the LU/shorts/pants combo a try, esp if it's cooler out.

    Just gave it a little thought and played with what I'd think if I saw a girl wearing lacy panties that peeked up. I wouldn't be thinking very nice things, actually.

    (But by the same token, I see the guys' underwear and *I* don't think anything! AGGHHHHHHH!!! Unfair!!! Why should *I* have to wear an extra layer? If it's not lacey panties, wouldn't any underwear do it just by virtue that I'm a girl then, so it doesn't even matter how much I try? So now I'm getting pissy and swaying back to the whole "Ah, fuck that, I'll just wear whatever I want" attitude.)

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  4. Let me amend my previous comments because I think I came across too harsh.

    This is the deal:

    You can wear a green, lacy thong that peeks out of your pants and not care that folks look and some will have at least a brief sexual thought about you/judge your chastity OR you can not wear one because you do have concerns. Those are your choices. What you might think about it--the "fairness" of it or how much of "one of the guys" you think you are doesn't come into play. Those are your two choices.

    There is nothing wrong with showing a green, lacy panty in class, but you have to stop the being shocked and weirded out by it when someone notices. It's lime green, for goodness sake. It's barely a step down from having little flashing arrows pointing to it. Even if it wasn't lime green, people notice other people's underwear. I'm just sayin' that the lime green doesn't make it exactly inconspicuous.

    I'm bettin' serious money that the guys aren't wear green, lacy panties in class. Or, if they are, they are most certainly making sure the other dudes don't see it because they would never live it down. They'd get s*** flipped at them non-stop. You can't be surprised that they'd flip you crap too.

    I'm also sayin' that if there was a dude accidentally flashing his lime-green, lacy thong--you'd totally notice it too and you would be thinking something. I don't know what that would be (depending on how you swing with men in frilly underwear), but you'd definitely be thinking something.

    Also--just because you don't think anything about seeing boys underwear doesn't make it wrong that they think something seeing your lacy underwear. Unless you are into gay porn, there is no fetishization of men in underwear.
    You barely SEE men in underwear mainstream--let alone seeing men posed provocatively in underwear.

    Now, how many mainstream images do you think you've seen of ladies wearing lacy things and posing/acting suggestively? Probably millions.

    You are going to be mad at dudes who have had the lacy things= sex shoved down their throats forever?
    Really?

    Whatever you do, the dudes will most likely have brief (or not so brief) sexual thoughts about you if you were wearing oversized granny panties. It doesn't matter. You can't control anyone else's thought process. You just have to figure out how you feel, what you are comfortable with (on an emotional level), and go with that.

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  5. Merci buckets for the giggles, awesome images, and clarification. What I would do to see one of the guys sport lacey thongs in class... would actually pay to see it, just to see if he had the cojones to do it.

    (As for the thong thang, in my defense, no one could possibly know they're *thongs* because my pants could never slip enough to show THAT much!)

    And although I absolutely concur with you on the aspect of "men + underwear" ~ especially tighty-whiteys ~ do not usually generate raging sexual connotations, dear goodness... a man in boxers ~ especially the stripey variety ~ and an unbuttoned long-sleeved shirt is crazy girl-porn in itself. You've seen the ads. That, I bet, you can sell by the millions of downloads just like *that*, especially if he's just sitting in an armchair reading.

    *swooooon*

    Just no socks. Socks + boxers = big no-no. Actually, nekked + socks also not sexy. Just because socks simply will not do.

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  6. How about black socks with those little sock suspenders and boxers? That's sexy, right? Right?!?

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  7. Hahahaha. I have to say-- I wear whatever the **** kind of underwear I want under my gi pants. Often yes, a lacy something, a thong something, maybe both lacy and thong. And I don't give a rat's a$$ if it shows over my waistband, or if men see it, or what they think when they see it. It's too freaking hot in Texas to wear a pair of bike shorts under the gi pants just to cover up the underwear. I have too much other stuff on my mind when I grapple to worry about them worrying about or fantasizing about or thinking about my underpants. And if they're grappling me, they too have too much on their mind. :)

    But I love your post, and I'm reposting it on my blog. Thanks!

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  8. First, a thousand thanks to Georgette for linking to this blog. Hilarious. Whorticulturalist? That deserves an entry on Urban Dictionary. That is classic.

    As a fellow lady grappler, I do not wear lacy bits under my gi. I have fully lost my gi pants on more than one occasion (well, far enough down that lacy bits would have been quite embarrassing). I have about 5 pairs of spandex shorts, so now I don't worry/care about the gi pants coming down when I'm passing someone's guard or whatever. I know plenty of other women who do wear lacy bits, though. For me, it's all about not wanting to worry about if my gi pants are going to slide off while I'm trying to do some sort of awesome jiu jitsu (okay, mediocre). I'd rather have the extra layer and know my girl parts are covered.

    Oh, and the absolute best rash guard in the WORLD for not rolling up is from vjjbjj.com. Yes, VJJ as in va-jay-jay. It started as a joke, and it stuck. Anyway, those rash guards are super cool and awesome, and don't roll up a bit. Don't dry them, though - the screen printing will crack.

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  9. BJJ is a sensual sport, there's no getting around it. Eventually everyone will have a sexual thought or two. That being said, maybe the gyms I frequent have a different culture, but I highly doubt anyone is giving your lacy panties too much attention. All my training partners categorise others by size, ability, fighting style etc. way before they start thinking about gender.

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  10. Coming from a male perspective:

    Anyone human notices underwear sometimes. It's the nature of human perception - not just male. However, the intent behind seeing the underwear changes in certain contexts.

    I'm fairly young - mid twenties - and I've got a multicultural background. That kind of predisposes me to not judge underwear or clothing choices much - I grew up where a lot of different social norms and styles were going on, traveled a bunch all over the place and whatever people chose was what they chose. Didn't matter to me much.

    On the jits mat, I don't think sexual thoughts at all. There's too much going on with the moves, the environment of learning and repeated failure because I am not awesome at jits (yet). The brain space is taken over by BJJ/MMA/getting better.

    So when I see colorful or unique underwear, it's usually a thought process of "Hey, that's colorful/different from a jiu-jitsu gi's colors. Nice taste." and then back to business. There's no negative thoughts or extra attention given to the person wearing them. It does not affect my rolling at all that a girl's pants occasionally fall down or her underwear rides up. It happens to all of us - although some better knot-tying skills might be in order sometimes.

    In nearly three years of jits, I've made one underwear comment (a joke) to a woman I've rolled with and it was in a setting and context outside of jits. It doesn't come up.

    This is one man's opinion. Others will be scuzzier, yet others will be more saintly, but probably the opinions of most people rolling at BJJ gyms will be similar.

    And it's entirely possible for men and women to be friends without there being sexual undertones. That being said, almost all men will respond to an offer of gettin' it on with an affirmative.

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  11. I'm a dude and I usually catch a glimpse of one of my female training partners underoo's at least once per class. Same girl all the time. She seems to dig bright colors. It's not a big deal really. I'm usually to focused on whatever I'm doing to think anything about it. I will be honest and say I much prefer to spot a pair of girly drawers than the hairy crack of one of my male training partners. That's mainly because the ladies have a lot less ass fro action going on and it doesn't remind me that my own hairy ass is probably hanging out fairly often.

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  12. I love this article. Georgette posted a link to it on my article about BJJ and women: femininity.http://juliajohansen.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/women-and-bjj-femininity

    I would not feel comfortable wearing lacy panties. Precisely because while I'm comfortable with them recognizing me as a woman and feeling feminine, I feel like it would be encouraging them to sexualize me and I'm not okay with that. So while I may have polka dot pedicures, I will keep my lacy panties for off the mats.

    I can imagine I might feel uncomfortable if a female (or male for that matter) in my gym were sporting a whale tail :). I would feel uncomfortable IF the mood of the class felt like a frat house. In other words, when the guys are watching her grapple, do they give off a mood like they're watching a stripper or a wet tee-shirt contest? If that's the case I would ask her not to wear it.

    Thanks for the food for thought!

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